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Max%-No-Powerbombs analysis (inbounds, without SpaceTime-beam): (last update: 05.10.2017; Moonfall opens up 2 Etecoon area items, and Freeze-Walk in Blue Brinstar allows for the 2 top Missiles)
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=== Max%-No-Powerbombs analysis (inbounds, without Spazer+Plasma beam combinations): (last update: 04.05.2018) ===
  
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The maximum for PAL and NTSC (with the help of Taco's left-side Green Gate Glitch at the gate to the right of the glass tube) with tool-assistance is 82%.
  
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PAL and NTSC (due to Taco´s NTSC left-side GGG): 75%.
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(1) Lower Norfair can be entered with tool-assistance using Wave, Ice and Grapple, for a Moondance application at the entrance to Gravitron, the lavapit room, without having any powerbombs. From there one can use an Ice-clip to get up in Mickey-Mouse-room and then one can loop around to get into Golden Torizo's room.
  
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The items that can be collected with tool-assisted superplay are:
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(2) And for the WS-R.-Tank, with tool-assistance one should (in NTSC aswell as PAL) be able to use frozen enemies in the attic of Wrecked Ship to initiate a Moondance setup and carry the built up speed into Bowling room (using Speedbooster to get past the speed blocks).
  
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Ball, Bombs, Charge, Ice, Wave, Spazer, Plasma, HighJump, Speedbooster, SpaceJump, Varia, Gravity, Grapple, Brinstar-R-Tank, Norfair-R-Tank, Maridia-R.-Tank, 1.Missiles, Blue-Brinstar-E-Tank-Missile, left Top-Blue-Brinstar-Missile, right Top-Blue-Brinstar-Missile, left Gauntlet-Missile, right Gauntlet-Missile, bomb-block-tunnel-Crateria-Missile, Crateria-shaft-Missile, early-SuperMissile-Missile, left Brinstar-R.-Tank-Missile, right Brinstar-R.-Tank-Missile, upper Charge-room-Missile, lower Charge-room-Missile, Brinstar-blue-gate-Missile, HighJump-Missile, upper Norfair-path-Missile, Bubble-Room-Missile, Norfair-pre-R.-Tank-room-Missile, Norfair-R.-Tank-Missile, Speedbooster-Missile, Wave-Missile, Crocomire-shaft-Missile, Grapple-Missile, Crocomire-return-path-Missile, left Norfair-Missile, left Maridia-Beach-Missile, right Maridia-Beach-Missile, Maridia-R.-Tank-Missile, Maridia-Powerbomb-Missile, Maridia-shaft-Missile, Turtle-Missile, Snail-Room-Missile, Draygon-Missile, Lake-Missile, upper Ocean-Missile, middle Ocean-Missile, lower Ocean-Missile, WS-R.-Tank-Missile, WS-shaft-Missile, right WS-Missile, early SuperMissile, SporeSpawn-SuperMissile, Maridia-Beach-SuperMissile, Maridia-shaft-SuperMissile, Snail-Room-SuperMissile, left WS-SuperMissile, right WS-SuperMissile, Etecoon-SuperMissile, Blue-Brinstar-E-Tank, Gauntlet-E.-Tank, Crateria-mushroom-path-E.-Tank, Kraid-E.-Tank, HighJump-E.-Tank, Crocomire-E.-Tank, right Charge-room-E.-Tank, Turtle-E.-Tank, WS-E.-Tank, Botwoon-E.-Tank, Etecoon-E.-Tank.
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The items that can be collected with tool-assisted superplay are listed below.
  
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Items that cannot be collected: All 10 powerbomb packs, X-Ray (due to powerbomb door and pb block wall), Springball (due to pb block wall), early PB-Missile (behind a pb block wall in Red Brinstar), Kraid-Missile (behind a pb block wall), GT-Missile, GT-SuperMissile, ScrewAttack, Mickey-Mouse-Missile, Ridley-E.-Tank, Fireflea-E.-Tank, 1st-LNF-Exit-Missile, 2nd-LNF-Exit-Missile (Lower Norfair items are blocked off), WS-R.-Tank, Waterway-E.-Tank (behind a pb block), Crateria-SuperMissile.
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== Crateria: ==
  
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For humans, 74% should be the feasible maximum in PAL (with the right Charge-room-E.-Tank remaining), and 72% in NTSC (because of the Etecoon-floor clip).
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* Bombs
  
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(Incomplete) demonstration videos for the PAL case:
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* Gauntlet-E.-Tank
  
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyIfiSHc9Dg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyIfiSHc9Dg
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* Crateria-mushroom-path-E.-Tank
  
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi2rVhhGx9w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi2rVhhGx9w
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* left Gauntlet-Missile
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* right Gauntlet-Missile
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* Moat-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* upper Ocean-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* middle Ocean-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* lower Ocean-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* Parlor-tunnel-Missile
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* old-MB-room-Missile
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== Brinstar: ==
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* Ball
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* Charge
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* Spazer
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* Varia
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* Brinstar-R-Tank
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* Blue-Brinstar-E.-Tank
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* Kraid-E.-Tank
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* right Charge-room-E.-Tank (probably TAS-only)
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* Etecoon-E.-Tank
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* early SuperMissile
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* SporeSpawn-SuperMissile
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* Etecoon-SuperMissile
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* 1.Missiles
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* Blue-Brinstar-E.-Tank-Missile
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* left Top-Blue-Brinstar-Missile (probably TAS-only)
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* right Top-Blue-Brinstar-Missile (probably TAS-only)
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* early-SuperMissile-Missile
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* left Brinstar-R.-Tank-Missile
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* right Brinstar-R.-Tank-Missile
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* upper Charge-room-Missile
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* lower Charge-room-Missile
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* Brinstar-blue-gate-Missile
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== Norfair: ==
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* Ice
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* Wave
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* Highjump
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* Speedbooster
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* Grapple
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* Screw Attack (probably TAS-only)
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* Norfair-R.-Tank
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* HighJump-E.-Tank
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* Crocomire-E.-Tank
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* Fireflea-E.-Tank (probably TAS-only)
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* GT-SuperMissile (probably TAS-only)
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* HighJump-Missile
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* upper Norfair-path-Missile
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* Bubble-Room-Missile
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* Norfair-pre-R.-Tank-room-Missile
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* Norfair-R.-Tank-Missile
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* Speedbooster-Missile
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* Wave-Missile
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* Crocomire-shaft-Missile
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* Grapple-Missile
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* Crocomire-return-path-Missile
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* left Norfair-Missile
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* Mickey-Mouse-Missile (probably TAS-only)
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* 1st-LNF-Exit-Missile (probably TAS-only)
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* 2nd-LNF-Exit-Missile (probably TAS-only)
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== Wrecked Ship: ==
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* Gravity (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* WS-R.-Tank [but this item would need to be collected last, since one cannot escape from there anymore, and it is the only item of this type among the collectible ones] (probably TAS-only)
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* WS-E.-Tank (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* left WS-SuperMissile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* right WS-SuperMissile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* WS-R.-Tank-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* WS-shaft-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* right WS-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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== Maridia: ==
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* Plasma (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* Spacejump (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* Maridia-R.-Tank (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* left Maridia-Beach-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* right Maridia-Beach-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* Maridia-R.-Tank-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* Maridia-Powerbomb-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* Mainstreet-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* Turtle-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* Snail-Room-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* Draygon-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* Maridia-Beach-SuperMissile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* Mainstreet-SuperMissile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* Snail-Room-SuperMissile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* Turtle-E.-Tank (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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* Botwoon-E.-Tank (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
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== Items that cannot be collected: ==
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* All 10 powerbomb packs [as sidenote, TAS could pick up early PB, upper-Red-Brinstar-PB, Etecoon-PB, Pink-Brinstar-PB, Crocomire-PB, Fireflea-PB or Maridia-PB as very first powerbomb pack under the above restrictions, in NTSC aswell as PAL]
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* X-Ray (due to the powerbomb door and powerbomb block wall being in the way)
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* Springball (due to a powerbomb block wall in Shaktool's room)
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* Waterway-E.-Tank (since the item is past a powerbomb block under Charge beam's location, and no Moondance setup can reach the powerbomb block)
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* Ridley-E.-Tank (because of the yellow door shell on the way down to Ridley's lair and the powerbomb block statue in the room before the Ninja-Pirates)
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* Crateria-SuperMissile (because of a yellow and a grey door blocking the room off, and X-Ray-Climb not being an option without X-Ray)
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* early PB-Missile (since it is behind a powerbomb block wall in Red Brinstar)
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* Kraid-Missile (because it is behind a powerbomb block wall)
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* GT-Missile (because the Spacejump-statue is blocked off by a powerbomb block wall and no Moondance can be initiated to clip past the tunnel-block in the acid, and no Crystal Flash can be executed and no Superjumps can be done without X-Ray)
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== For players without tool-assistance, 70% currently is the achieved maximum in PAL, but 72% should be possible by adding Etecoon-E.-Tank and Etecoon-SuperMissiles; and for NTSC, the maximum should be 45% by subtracting all the items from the list that were labelled ''(probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)'' from the collectible items in the PAL case without those that were labelled ''(probably TAS-only)''. ==
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Demonstration videos for the PAL case with 70 collected items (the current best):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyIfiSHc9Dg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi2rVhhGx9w
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== TODO: Creation of a demonstration movie file for (1) in the PAL case, and for (2) in NTSC and PAL case, and finishing the PAL demonstration by adding 2 more items without tool-assistance. ==

Revision as of 20:15, 4 May 2018

Max%-No-Powerbombs analysis (inbounds, without Spazer+Plasma beam combinations): (last update: 04.05.2018)

The maximum for PAL and NTSC (with the help of Taco's left-side Green Gate Glitch at the gate to the right of the glass tube) with tool-assistance is 82%.

(1) Lower Norfair can be entered with tool-assistance using Wave, Ice and Grapple, for a Moondance application at the entrance to Gravitron, the lavapit room, without having any powerbombs. From there one can use an Ice-clip to get up in Mickey-Mouse-room and then one can loop around to get into Golden Torizo's room.

(2) And for the WS-R.-Tank, with tool-assistance one should (in NTSC aswell as PAL) be able to use frozen enemies in the attic of Wrecked Ship to initiate a Moondance setup and carry the built up speed into Bowling room (using Speedbooster to get past the speed blocks).

The items that can be collected with tool-assisted superplay are listed below.

Crateria:

  • Bombs
  • Gauntlet-E.-Tank
  • Crateria-mushroom-path-E.-Tank
  • left Gauntlet-Missile
  • right Gauntlet-Missile
  • Moat-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • upper Ocean-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • middle Ocean-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • lower Ocean-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • Parlor-tunnel-Missile
  • old-MB-room-Missile

Brinstar:

  • Ball
  • Charge
  • Spazer
  • Varia
  • Brinstar-R-Tank
  • Blue-Brinstar-E.-Tank
  • Kraid-E.-Tank
  • right Charge-room-E.-Tank (probably TAS-only)
  • Etecoon-E.-Tank
  • early SuperMissile
  • SporeSpawn-SuperMissile
  • Etecoon-SuperMissile
  • 1.Missiles
  • Blue-Brinstar-E.-Tank-Missile
  • left Top-Blue-Brinstar-Missile (probably TAS-only)
  • right Top-Blue-Brinstar-Missile (probably TAS-only)
  • early-SuperMissile-Missile
  • left Brinstar-R.-Tank-Missile
  • right Brinstar-R.-Tank-Missile
  • upper Charge-room-Missile
  • lower Charge-room-Missile
  • Brinstar-blue-gate-Missile

Norfair:

  • Ice
  • Wave
  • Highjump
  • Speedbooster
  • Grapple
  • Screw Attack (probably TAS-only)
  • Norfair-R.-Tank
  • HighJump-E.-Tank
  • Crocomire-E.-Tank
  • Fireflea-E.-Tank (probably TAS-only)
  • GT-SuperMissile (probably TAS-only)
  • HighJump-Missile
  • upper Norfair-path-Missile
  • Bubble-Room-Missile
  • Norfair-pre-R.-Tank-room-Missile
  • Norfair-R.-Tank-Missile
  • Speedbooster-Missile
  • Wave-Missile
  • Crocomire-shaft-Missile
  • Grapple-Missile
  • Crocomire-return-path-Missile
  • left Norfair-Missile
  • Mickey-Mouse-Missile (probably TAS-only)
  • 1st-LNF-Exit-Missile (probably TAS-only)
  • 2nd-LNF-Exit-Missile (probably TAS-only)

Wrecked Ship:

  • Gravity (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • WS-R.-Tank [but this item would need to be collected last, since one cannot escape from there anymore, and it is the only item of this type among the collectible ones] (probably TAS-only)
  • WS-E.-Tank (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • left WS-SuperMissile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • right WS-SuperMissile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • WS-R.-Tank-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • WS-shaft-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • right WS-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)

Maridia:

  • Plasma (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • Spacejump (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • Maridia-R.-Tank (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • left Maridia-Beach-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • right Maridia-Beach-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • Maridia-R.-Tank-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • Maridia-Powerbomb-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • Mainstreet-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • Turtle-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • Snail-Room-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • Draygon-Missile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • Maridia-Beach-SuperMissile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • Mainstreet-SuperMissile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • Snail-Room-SuperMissile (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • Turtle-E.-Tank (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)
  • Botwoon-E.-Tank (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case)

Items that cannot be collected:

  • All 10 powerbomb packs [as sidenote, TAS could pick up early PB, upper-Red-Brinstar-PB, Etecoon-PB, Pink-Brinstar-PB, Crocomire-PB, Fireflea-PB or Maridia-PB as very first powerbomb pack under the above restrictions, in NTSC aswell as PAL]
  • X-Ray (due to the powerbomb door and powerbomb block wall being in the way)
  • Springball (due to a powerbomb block wall in Shaktool's room)
  • Waterway-E.-Tank (since the item is past a powerbomb block under Charge beam's location, and no Moondance setup can reach the powerbomb block)
  • Ridley-E.-Tank (because of the yellow door shell on the way down to Ridley's lair and the powerbomb block statue in the room before the Ninja-Pirates)
  • Crateria-SuperMissile (because of a yellow and a grey door blocking the room off, and X-Ray-Climb not being an option without X-Ray)
  • early PB-Missile (since it is behind a powerbomb block wall in Red Brinstar)
  • Kraid-Missile (because it is behind a powerbomb block wall)
  • GT-Missile (because the Spacejump-statue is blocked off by a powerbomb block wall and no Moondance can be initiated to clip past the tunnel-block in the acid, and no Crystal Flash can be executed and no Superjumps can be done without X-Ray)

For players without tool-assistance, 70% currently is the achieved maximum in PAL, but 72% should be possible by adding Etecoon-E.-Tank and Etecoon-SuperMissiles; and for NTSC, the maximum should be 45% by subtracting all the items from the list that were labelled (probably TAS-only in the NTSC case) from the collectible items in the PAL case without those that were labelled (probably TAS-only).

Demonstration videos for the PAL case with 70 collected items (the current best):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyIfiSHc9Dg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi2rVhhGx9w

TODO: Creation of a demonstration movie file for (1) in the PAL case, and for (2) in NTSC and PAL case, and finishing the PAL demonstration by adding 2 more items without tool-assistance.

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