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Combinations in red will never come up in optimal play: using ammo to destroy the jar would call for additional Super Missiles having been available earlier, and end up using altogether ''more'' ammo than it would to merely break the jar and defeat MB1 in one go. Put otherwise: any ammo loadout between 8+10 and 0+18 would allow destroying the jar, but since 10 Super Missiles suffice to defeat MB1, the player should simply do this instead. Indeed some loadouts too low to fully destroy the jar but high in Super Missiles, such as 6+10 or 0+16, are seen to suffice also. | Combinations in red will never come up in optimal play: using ammo to destroy the jar would call for additional Super Missiles having been available earlier, and end up using altogether ''more'' ammo than it would to merely break the jar and defeat MB1 in one go. Put otherwise: any ammo loadout between 8+10 and 0+18 would allow destroying the jar, but since 10 Super Missiles suffice to defeat MB1, the player should simply do this instead. Indeed some loadouts too low to fully destroy the jar but high in Super Missiles, such as 6+10 or 0+16, are seen to suffice also. | ||
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| + | Combinations in gray do not improve on loadouts with lower Missile capacity, but they can be optimal play if, after defeating the final Zebetite, the player has at least 18 Missiles left to also destroy the jar before returning for a final refill. | ||
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| + | To completely destroy the jar using one or more Super Missiles is never strategically optimal. This can still be situationally optimal if MB ends up being reached with between 13 and 17 Missiles, between 1 and 5 Super Missiles, and a maximum Missile cap between 20 and 30 — such that immediately backtracking to refill would not provide sufficient ammo for ''both'' breaking open the jar and defeating MB1 in one round. This however implies Missiles were earlier either missed, or used on Zebetites where Super Missiles should have been, at least for purposes of DPS. | ||
| + | :<small>E.g. 17+5 ammo, with a Missile cap of 20, allows using 17+1 ammo to destroy the jar, then returning after refill to defeat MB1 with 18+4 ammo. This however implies 3 Missiles, and at least 3 Supers, were spent after the previous refill on the approach to MB, to defeat at least one Zebetite. Using instead 0+4 ammo on this Zebetite, followed by 18+0 ammo on the jar, would have been more effective, and still leaves 18+4 ammo on MB1.</small> | ||
=== Later phases of Mother Brain === | === Later phases of Mother Brain === | ||
| − | Mother Brain's 2nd phase has 18000 health, and in low ammo situations must be defeated primarily with [[Charge Beam]]. In its absense, she requires ammo ranging from 180 Missiles to 60 Super Missiles (the latter number only obtainable in randomizers and other mods). Combined with ammo required for MB1 gives requirements of ammo between | + | Mother Brain's 2nd phase has 18000 health, and in low ammo situations must be defeated primarily with [[Charge Beam]]. In its absense, she requires ammo ranging from 180 Missiles to 60 Super Missiles (the latter number only obtainable with [[Golden Torizo Code]] and in randomizers and other mods). Combined with ammo required for MB1 and the glass jar gives requirements of ammo between 216+0 and 0+76 to get through the fight. Typically seen Missile + Super Missile capacities include the following: |
| + | : 130+30 • 115+35 • 100+40 • 85+45 • 70+50 • 55+55 • 40+60 • 35+65 | ||
| + | all of which have 400 damage of lenience. With Zebetite Skip, they allow an approach already from Rinka Shaft using one Super Missile on the door. Loadouts from 100+40 up are sufficient for clearing of doors and Zebetites + a single ammo refill, in the absense of a Zebetite Skip option. | ||
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| + | For completeness, no-refill loadouts that destroy all Zebetites include the following: | ||
| + | :225+30 • 210+35 • 195+40 • 180+45 • 165+50 • 150+55 • 135+60 • 120+65 • 105+70 • 90+75 | ||
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| + | DPS considerations: | ||
* Saved up Missiles provide higher DPS than any Charge Beam combination without [[Plasma Beam]]. ('''''To check''': also higher than plain Charge+Plasma?'') | * Saved up Missiles provide higher DPS than any Charge Beam combination without [[Plasma Beam]]. ('''''To check''': also higher than plain Charge+Plasma?'') | ||
* Saved up Super Missiles provide higher DPS than any Charge Beam combination short of optimal usage of [[Full Beam]] (Charge+[[Ice Beam|Ice]]+[[Wave Beam|Wave]]+Plasma). | * Saved up Super Missiles provide higher DPS than any Charge Beam combination short of optimal usage of [[Full Beam]] (Charge+[[Ice Beam|Ice]]+[[Wave Beam|Wave]]+Plasma). | ||
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# Defeat MB1 with 30 Missiles. | # Defeat MB1 with 30 Missiles. | ||
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| − | # Open | + | Four pass-thrus and four refills are required. |
| − | # | + | # Open all doors with 13 Missiles, refill. |
| − | # Destroy the | + | # Destroy the 1st and 2nd Zebetites with 11 Missiles each, refill. |
| − | # Destroy MB's jar | + | # Destroy the 3rd and 4th Zebetites with 11 Missiles each, refill. |
| − | # Defeat MB1 with | + | # Destroy MB's jar with 18 Missiles, refill. |
| + | # Defeat MB1 with 24+2 ammo. | ||
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# Destroy the 2nd Zebetite with 11 Missiles, refill. | # Destroy the 2nd Zebetite with 11 Missiles, refill. | ||
# Destroy the 3rd and 4th Zebetites with 11+0 and 8+1 ammo (in either order), refill. | # Destroy the 3rd and 4th Zebetites with 11+0 and 8+1 ammo (in either order), refill. | ||
| − | # | + | # Destroy MB's jar with 18 Missiles, refill. |
# Defeat MB1 with 18+4 ammo. | # Defeat MB1 with 18+4 ammo. | ||
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Latest revision as of 20:44, 20 February 2025
The following are notes on optimal routing of Lower Tourian including Mother Brain Room, in the absense of tools for or knowledge of Zebetite Skip, and without assuming 10 Missile Zebetite Kill.
Contents
[hide]Basics
Tourian Recharge Room allows refilling Missiles to Samus' maximum capacity available, and is the only available source of additional ammo damage in Lower Tourian. If the player lacks sufficient ammo to fight through the whole of Lower Tourian in one run, the Recharge Room must be visited one or more times.
The player's final count of Super Missiles that can be used in Lower Tourian is locked in after entering Big Boy Room, and de facto locked in after defeating Metroid Room 4, from where it is not meaningful to backtrack for more refills, if the player otherwise has sufficient ammo for dealing with Lower Tourian by any means.
- Any health that is sufficient for surviving Rainbow Beam (3 tanks with Varia Suit, 6 tanks without) is also sufficient for easily damage-tanking Blue Hopper Room. The ability to defeat Blue Sidehoppers with five Super Missiles thus serves no proper gameplay purpose and should be considered a part of the game's environmental storytelling, used to demonstrate to a first-time player the scale of danger posed by the Super Metroid.
In other words, Samus' maximum capacity of Super Missiles is less meaningful than the actual count left in her possession. With care, it is regardless usually possible to bring her maximum capacity or something close to it into Lower Tourian.
Doors, Zebetites and Mother Brain's glass jar are the three obstacles in Lower Tourian standing between Samus and Mother Brain. All of these disappear permanently once destroyed, and the player can backtrack after these tasks to refill Missiles.
It is often not obvious where either the best foldback points are for returning refill Missiles, or what exact purpose Super Missiles should be saved for. The following are rough rules of thumb:
- For a given number of refills, less time will be spent backtracking if the player turns back sooner rather than later, spending as much ammo as possible on the last trip through Lower Tourian (including a minimum of 30 Missile equivalents to defeat Mother Brain 1).
- Using Super Missiles to limit the number of refills required is preferrable to saving them for any form of higher DPS.
Basic numbers
Missiles do 100 damage, Super Missiles do 300 damage.
Early Lower Tourian
Red doors in Seaweed Room and Rinka Shaft require 5 Missiles or 1 Super Missile to unlock.
- With lowest loadouts, the former door is usually not a consideration, as the player likely also has not performed Baby Skip and must refill at least Samus' health anyway. The optimal strategy is thus to open the door with Missiles before the 1st refill.
- Taking further damage in Lower Tourian but before the Mother Brain fight is not strictly speaking required, and with 3 or 4 Reserve Tanks (+ at least one Energy Tank proper) it is technically possible to skip refilling health at Tourian Recharge Room entirely. This is unlikely to be ever practical.
- In loadouts with some lenience, using a Super Missile on red doors is often preferrable to to using Missiles, which is both faster and leaves 2 more Missiles for dealing damage.
The Gadora in Tourian Eye Door Room requires 3 Missiles or 1 Super Missile to defeat. The latter is faster and thus generally preferrable, except in very low Missile loadouts, where Super Missiles must be saved either for dealing with Zebetites effectively without excess backtracking or for getting through MB1.
No substantial threat is posed by the Gadora or in Rinka Shaft. With at least 15 Missiles, it is quite doable to unlock all three doors already before the 1st refill. However, with any loadout that leaves 5 or more Missiles of lenience with Zebetites (e.g. 25+5), the Rinka Shaft door will be optimally instead unlocked on the first Zebetite pass-thru. In any loadout with 8 or more (e.g. 30+0 or 20+5), the same holds for the Gadora.
Mother Brain room
Zebetites have 1000 health but regenerate over time, and thus killing one requires minimally any of the following ammo combinations:
- 11 Missiles • 8 Missiles + 1 Super Missile • 5 Missiles + 2 Super Missiles • 2 Missiles + 3 Super Missiles • 4 Super Missiles
where 2+3 is optimal in speed and damage dealt, has the least risk of mis-hitting Rinkas or bullets, and is usually preferrable whenever Super Missiles are available in sufficient numbers. 4 Super Missiles by contrast wastes 100 damage that could have been used on other Zebetites or Mother Brain.
Combining these numbers, two Zebetites can be defeated with the ammo combinations:
- 22+0 • 19+1 • 16+2 • 13+3 • 10+4 • 7+5 • 4+6 • 2+7 • 0+8
three Zebetites with the combinations:
- 33+0 • 30+1 • 27+2 • 24+3 • 21+4 • 18+5 • 15+6 • 12+7 • 9+8 • 6+9 • 4+10 • 2+11 • 0+12
and all four Zebetites with the combinations:
- 44+0 • 41+1 • 38+2 • 35+3 • 32+4 • 29+5 • 26+6 • 23+7 • 20+8 • 17+9 • 14+10 • 11+11 • 8+12 • 6+13 • 4+14 • 2+15 • 0+16
As the 0+4 kill wastes damage, it can only be used in the low-Missile combinations in bold; while e.g. with 4+6 ammo, defeating one Zebetite with 0+4 would only leave 4+2 ammo for the other, one Missile short. Both must be instead defeated with 2+3.
Mother Brain's glass jar requires 6 projectiles to break or 18 projectiles to completely destroy. This makes no difference between Missiles and Super Missiles. Missiles should be always used preferentially.
Mother Brain's 1st phase ("MB1") has 3000 health and does not take damage from Charge Beam. Defeating her requires minimally any of the following Missile + Super Missile combinations:
| Missile cap | To kill MB1 only | To break the jar and kill MB1 |
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| 40 | 30+0 | 36+0 |
| 35 | 30+0 | 33+1 |
| 30 | 30+0 • 27+1 | 30+2 • 27+3 |
| 25 | 24+2 • 21+3 | 24+4 • 21+5 |
| 20 | 18+4 | 18+6 |
| 15 | 15+5 • 12+6 | 15+7 • 12+8 |
| 10 | 9+7 • 6+8 | 9+9 • 6+10 |
| 5 | 3+9 | 5+11 |
| 0 | 0+10 | 0+16 |
Combinations in red will never come up in optimal play: using ammo to destroy the jar would call for additional Super Missiles having been available earlier, and end up using altogether more ammo than it would to merely break the jar and defeat MB1 in one go. Put otherwise: any ammo loadout between 8+10 and 0+18 would allow destroying the jar, but since 10 Super Missiles suffice to defeat MB1, the player should simply do this instead. Indeed some loadouts too low to fully destroy the jar but high in Super Missiles, such as 6+10 or 0+16, are seen to suffice also.
Combinations in gray do not improve on loadouts with lower Missile capacity, but they can be optimal play if, after defeating the final Zebetite, the player has at least 18 Missiles left to also destroy the jar before returning for a final refill.
To completely destroy the jar using one or more Super Missiles is never strategically optimal. This can still be situationally optimal if MB ends up being reached with between 13 and 17 Missiles, between 1 and 5 Super Missiles, and a maximum Missile cap between 20 and 30 — such that immediately backtracking to refill would not provide sufficient ammo for both breaking open the jar and defeating MB1 in one round. This however implies Missiles were earlier either missed, or used on Zebetites where Super Missiles should have been, at least for purposes of DPS.
- E.g. 17+5 ammo, with a Missile cap of 20, allows using 17+1 ammo to destroy the jar, then returning after refill to defeat MB1 with 18+4 ammo. This however implies 3 Missiles, and at least 3 Supers, were spent after the previous refill on the approach to MB, to defeat at least one Zebetite. Using instead 0+4 ammo on this Zebetite, followed by 18+0 ammo on the jar, would have been more effective, and still leaves 18+4 ammo on MB1.
Later phases of Mother Brain
Mother Brain's 2nd phase has 18000 health, and in low ammo situations must be defeated primarily with Charge Beam. In its absense, she requires ammo ranging from 180 Missiles to 60 Super Missiles (the latter number only obtainable with Golden Torizo Code and in randomizers and other mods). Combined with ammo required for MB1 and the glass jar gives requirements of ammo between 216+0 and 0+76 to get through the fight. Typically seen Missile + Super Missile capacities include the following:
- 130+30 • 115+35 • 100+40 • 85+45 • 70+50 • 55+55 • 40+60 • 35+65
all of which have 400 damage of lenience. With Zebetite Skip, they allow an approach already from Rinka Shaft using one Super Missile on the door. Loadouts from 100+40 up are sufficient for clearing of doors and Zebetites + a single ammo refill, in the absense of a Zebetite Skip option.
For completeness, no-refill loadouts that destroy all Zebetites include the following:
- 225+30 • 210+35 • 195+40 • 180+45 • 165+50 • 150+55 • 135+60 • 120+65 • 105+70 • 90+75
DPS considerations:
- Saved up Missiles provide higher DPS than any Charge Beam combination without Plasma Beam. (To check: also higher than plain Charge+Plasma?)
- Saved up Super Missiles provide higher DPS than any Charge Beam combination short of optimal usage of Full Beam (Charge+Ice+Wave+Plasma).
- These DPS saves will usually not justify adding additional Missile refill trips to one's Lower Tourian route, but could be possible. The best case would be in otherwise no-refill branches which begin fading to mid-range ammo loudouts. E.g. taking a refill with a 80+0 loadout allows bringing up to 50 Missiles into the fight — equivalent to 84 plain Charge Beam shots, 56 Charge+Ice shots.
Mother Brain's 3rd phase must be defeated with Hyper Beam. No ammo calculations matter by this point.
Zero to one-refill loadouts
No backtracking
Beating Lower Tourian with no ammo refills whatsoever requires minimally 93 Missiles (13 for doors + 44 for Zebetites + 36 for one-round MB1). Initial ammo refill after Seaweed Room door but no backtracking lowers this to 88.
With any Super Missiles on hand to deal with red doors (preferrably also the Gadora), but at least 14 Missiles to deal with MB's jar and optimal damage against Zebetites, this reduces to ammo equivalent to 8900 damage. This includes the following counts with no refills:
- 83+2 • 80+3 • 77+4 • 74+5 … 62+9 • 59+10 … 47+14 • 44+15 … 32+19 • 29+20 … 17+24 • 14+25
With 0+4 Zebetite kills: 12+26 • 10+27 • 8+28 • 6+29 • 5+30 … 0+35
Including again early Seaweed Room door before a 1st refill lowers Super Missile requirements by 1, i.e. gives the following counts:
- 83+1 • 80+2 • 77+3 • 74+4 • 71+5 … 59+9 • 56+10 … 44+14 • 41+15 … 29+19 • 26+20 … 14+24
With 0+4 Zebetite kills: 12+25 • 10+26 • 8+27 • 6+28 • 5+29
Loadouts in bold use Super Missiles equivalent to some full capacity.
Loadouts in gray are not improvements over bringing in the corresponding maximum capacity of Missiles; this is seen to include in particular all relevant full ammo capacity loadouts.
Light backtracking
3 Missiles can be subtracted by an initial (pre-health refill) trip to both open Seaweed Room and defeat the Gadora using Missiles. This requires a Missile cap of at least 10.
- 85+0 • 80+1 • 77+2 • 74+3 • 71+4 • 68+5 … 56+9 • 53+10 … 41+14 • 38+15 … 26+19 • 23+20 … 14+23
With 0+4 Zebetite kills: 12+24 • 10+25. In the last, 6 Missiles must be used on MB's jar and 2+3 ammo on two Zebetites.
3 more Missiles can be subtracted by extending the initial trip to Rinka Shaft. This requires a Missile cap of at least 15.
- 80+0 • 77+1 • 74+2 • 71+3 • 68+4 • 65+5 … 53+9 • 50+10 … 38+14 • 35+15 … 23+19 • 20+20 • 18+21 • 14+22
Backtracking from Mother Brain room
11 Missiles less gives loadouts with optimal backtracking after the first Zebetite but still only a single ammo refill. In the following loadouts, all doors should still be opened with Missiles.
- 69+0 • 66+1 • 63+2 • 60+3 • 57+4 • 54+5 … 42+9 • 39+10 … 27+14 • 24+15
In 21+16, the Gadora should be defeated with a Super Missile. After refilling, the 2nd runthru in this plays identically to 24+15.
In 21+17, no other speedup over this is available than opening one further door with a Super Missile. Already 20+17 requires two refills.
11 Missiles yet less gives loadouts with optimal backtracking after the second Zebetite, again opening all doors with Missiles.
- 58+0 • 55+1 • 52+2 • 49+3 • 46+4 • 43+5 • 40+6 • 37+7 • 35+8
In 32+9, the Gadora should be defeated with a Super Missile. After refilling, the 2nd runthru in this plays identically to 35+8.
In XX+10 ………
Arguably the most balanced loadouts are those that call for backtracking after the third Zebetite, as approximately the same damage is dealt on both trips. In all loadouts after the 1st, the Gadora can/should be defeated with a Super Missile.
- 47+0 • 47+1 • 44+2 • 38+5 • 35+7 • 30+10
The related 44+3, 41+4, 38+6, 35+6, 32+9 provide no improvement other than higher DPS, as half the Super Missiles must be saved for the 2nd runthru.
Example loadouts at 2–3 refills
40+0
A loadout that also serves to demonstrate Lower Tourian management with the classic 40+60 ammo target in randomizers when Charge Beam has not been found, where the Super Missiles must be reserved for defeating MB2.
- Refill health.
- Open all doors with 13 Missiles + destroy the 1st Zebetite with 11 Missiles, refill.
- Destroy the 2nd, 3rd and 4th Zebetites with 11 Missiles each, refill.
- Break open MB's jar with 6 Missiles and defeat MB1 with 30 Missiles.
Note that this order has just slightly less backtracking than defeating Zebetites in units of 2+2.
Minimal loadouts
30+0
Four passes through are required with the lowest sufficient no-supers loadout. Assuming you enter Lower Tourian with at least 24 Missiles on hand:
- Refill only health on first approach. (Optional if you can brave a first pass at Mother Brain room on 1 health.)
- Open all doors with 13 Missiles + destroy the 1st Zebetite with 11 Missiles, refill.
- Destroy the 2nd and 3rd Zebetites with 11 Missiles each, refill.
- Destroy the 4th Zebetite with 11 Missiles and MB's jar with 18 Missiles, refill.
- Defeat MB1 with 30 Missiles.
25+2
Four pass-thrus and four refills are required.
- Open all doors with 13 Missiles, refill.
- Destroy the 1st and 2nd Zebetites with 11 Missiles each, refill.
- Destroy the 3rd and 4th Zebetites with 11 Missiles each, refill.
- Destroy MB's jar with 18 Missiles, refill.
- Defeat MB1 with 24+2 ammo.
20+5
Five refills and five pass-thrus are required, including destroying the glass jar.
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A 20+4 loadout will require a separate 11+0 kill also for the last Zebetite and add one further refill round.
15+10
Four refills and five pass-thrus are required. All steps except the last show a few Missiles' worth of leniency.
- Open all doors with Missiles, refill.
- Destroy the 1st Zebetite with 11 Missiles, refill.
- Destroy the 2nd Zebetite with 11 Missiles, refill.
- Destroy the 3rd and 4th Zebetites with 11+0 and 2+3 ammo (in either order), refill. 7 Super Missiles remain.
- 8+1 and 5+2 ammo usage naturally also works.
- Break open MB's jar with 6 Missiles, followed by 9+7 ammo to defeat MB1.
Any lower Super Missile counts require a separate 11-missile round for also the 4th Zebetite. In 15+9 and 15+8 there are however spare Supers that can be used to defeat the Gadora and/or move Rinka Shaft room into the first Zebetite run. Even 15+7 is possible but allows neither of these.
15+11 and 15+12 too only allow speedup by opening doors with Super Missiles. 15+13 is required before Zebetites can be combined into fewer passthrus; either 2 & 2 rounds of the same structure, or 1 & 3 rounds with three 5+2 kills in the latter.
10+15
Five refills and five pass-thrus are required.
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A 10+16 loadout shortens the 2nd pass-thru (moving the Rinka Shaft door to the 3rd) and a 10+17 loadout can remove it entirely. Another 10+17 option is dealing instead with Zebetites in two 8+1 – 2+3 units.
At the cost of just slighly more backtracking, the critical no-leniency two-Zebetite pass-thru can be also moved earlier in sequence, allowing a faster reset if a shot is missed.
An option with slightly more backtracking yet but 1-2 Missiles of leniency thruout is destroying all Zebetites with 8+1 ammo, and using two Supers instead on the Eye Room and Rinka Shaft door. 10+14 and 10+13 loadouts are possible along this same track but require a sixth pass-thru for opening doors.
5+20
The most highly tedious full-packs Lower Tourian loadout, requiring a whopping six refills.
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Even lower is the loadout 5+19, which requires dealing with Rinka Shaft door with Missiles, and thus one additional runback & refill.
In just higher loadouts, 5+21 removes the separate Gadora runthru, whereas 5+22 allows defeating two Zebetites (optimally, the last two) in one run with 2+3 ammo each.
